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#gimp irc invitation only?

Elle Stone
Hi All,

 From this page: https://www.gimp.org/irc.html

I clicked on this link: irc://irc.gimp.org/#gimp

expecting the channel to open using Chatzilla plug-in for Firefox, which
is how I've almost always accessed #gimp.

What really happened is that Chatzilla presented the following message:

[INFO] This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an
existing member of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the
channel operators to invite you in. [Knock]

Any ideas what's going on?

Best,
Elle
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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Michael Schumacher
On 01/15/2018 09:17 PM, Elle Stone wrote:

> [INFO]    This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an
> existing member of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the
> channel operators to invite you in. [Knock]
>
> Any ideas what's going on?

There was a netsplit, and when reconnecting, one of the servers set the
channel mode to +i(nvite only)

There is no obvious reason why it should be set this way, so I changed
it back.

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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Elle Stone
On 01/15/2018 03:32 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:

> On 01/15/2018 09:17 PM, Elle Stone wrote:
>
>> [INFO]    This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an
>> existing member of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the
>> channel operators to invite you in. [Knock]
>>
>> Any ideas what's going on?
>
> There was a netsplit, and when reconnecting, one of the servers set the
> channel mode to +i(nvite only)
>
> There is no obvious reason why it should be set this way, so I changed
> it back.
>

Thanks! Whatever you did, now I can access #gimp.
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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Elle Stone
In reply to this post by Michael Schumacher
On 01/15/2018 03:32 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:

> On 01/15/2018 09:17 PM, Elle Stone wrote:
>
>> [INFO]    This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an
>> existing member of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the
>> channel operators to invite you in. [Knock]
>>
>> Any ideas what's going on?
>
> There was a netsplit, and when reconnecting, one of the servers set the
> channel mode to +i(nvite only)
>
> There is no obvious reason why it should be set this way, so I changed
> it back.
>

Hmm, the same thing just happened again:

This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an existing
member of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the channel
operators to invite you in.

Best,
Elle
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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Patrick Shanahan-3
* Elle Stone <[hidden email]> [08-23-18 11:18]:

> On 01/15/2018 03:32 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
> > On 01/15/2018 09:17 PM, Elle Stone wrote:
> >
> > > [INFO]    This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an
> > > existing member of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the
> > > channel operators to invite you in. [Knock]
> > >
> > > Any ideas what's going on?
> >
> > There was a netsplit, and when reconnecting, one of the servers set the
> > channel mode to +i(nvite only)
> >
> > There is no obvious reason why it should be set this way, so I changed
> > it back.
> >
>
> Hmm, the same thing just happened again:
>
> This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an existing member
> of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the channel operators to
> invite you in.

it was instituted freenode wide to accept *only* registered users due to
spamming.  it requires you "log" in using a password to your *registered*
id.  
  go to #freenode
  make sure your nick is correctly set
  /msg nickserv identify <your-password>
 
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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Elle Stone
On 08/23/2018 11:25 AM, Paka wrote:

> * Elle Stone <[hidden email]> [08-23-18 11:18]:
>> On 01/15/2018 03:32 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
>>> On 01/15/2018 09:17 PM, Elle Stone wrote:
>>>
>>>> [INFO]    This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an
>>>> existing member of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the
>>>> channel operators to invite you in. [Knock]
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas what's going on?
>>>
>>> There was a netsplit, and when reconnecting, one of the servers set the
>>> channel mode to +i(nvite only)
>>>
>>> There is no obvious reason why it should be set this way, so I changed
>>> it back.
>>>
>>
>> Hmm, the same thing just happened again:
>>
>> This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an existing member
>> of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the channel operators to
>> invite you in.
>
> it was instituted freenode wide to accept *only* registered users due to
> spamming.  it requires you "log" in using a password to your *registered*
> id.
>    go to #freenode
>    make sure your nick is correctly set
>    /msg nickserv identify <your-password>
>    
>

Hi Paka,

I just did register with #freenode. But I still get the same
"invite-only" message when trying to join #gimp.

Is freenode even related to irc.gimp.org?

Does freenode handle all nick registrations?

Does irc.gimp.org require separate registraton?

Best,
Elle
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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Patrick Shanahan-3
* Elle Stone <[hidden email]> [08-23-18 11:42]:

> On 08/23/2018 11:25 AM, Paka wrote:
> > * Elle Stone <[hidden email]> [08-23-18 11:18]:
> > > On 01/15/2018 03:32 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:
> > > > On 01/15/2018 09:17 PM, Elle Stone wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > [INFO]    This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an
> > > > > existing member of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the
> > > > > channel operators to invite you in. [Knock]
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas what's going on?
> > > >
> > > > There was a netsplit, and when reconnecting, one of the servers set the
> > > > channel mode to +i(nvite only)
> > > >
> > > > There is no obvious reason why it should be set this way, so I changed
> > > > it back.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hmm, the same thing just happened again:
> > >
> > > This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an existing member
> > > of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the channel operators to
> > > invite you in.
> >
> > it was instituted freenode wide to accept *only* registered users due to
> > spamming.  it requires you "log" in using a password to your *registered*
> > id.
> >    go to #freenode
> >    make sure your nick is correctly set
> >    /msg nickserv identify <your-password>
> >
>
> Hi Paka,
>
> I just did register with #freenode. But I still get the same "invite-only"
> message when trying to join #gimp.
>
> Is freenode even related to irc.gimp.org?

no, not "related".  freenode provides irc service connections and I can
access #gimp from there.
  paka (~paka@opensuse/member/Paka) has joined #gimp

> Does freenode handle all nick registrations?

as far as I know

> Does irc.gimp.org require separate registraton?

"registering" alone is not enough,
  did you do "/msg nickserv identify <password>"

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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Elle Stone
On 08/23/2018 11:47 AM, Paka wrote:
> * Elle Stone <[hidden email]> [08-23-18 11:42]:
>> On 08/23/2018 11:25 AM, Paka wrote:

>>>> This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an existing member
>>>> of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the channel operators to
>>>> invite you in.
>>>
>>> it was instituted freenode wide to accept *only* registered users due to
>>> spamming.  it requires you "log" in using a password to your *registered*
>>> id.
>>>     go to #freenode
>>>     make sure your nick is correctly set
>>>     /msg nickserv identify <your-password>
>>>
>>
>> Hi Paka,
>>
>> I just did register with #freenode. But I still get the same "invite-only"
>> message when trying to join #gimp.
>>
>> Is freenode even related to irc.gimp.org?
>
> no, not "related".  freenode provides irc service connections and I can
> access #gimp from there.
>    paka (~paka@opensuse/member/Paka) has joined #gimp
>
>> Does freenode handle all nick registrations?
>
> as far as I know
>
>> Does irc.gimp.org require separate registraton?
>
> "registering" alone is not enough,
>    did you do "/msg nickserv identify <password>"
>

Hi Paka,

It does seem that irc.gimp.org and freenode.org require separate
registration. Or else there is some sort of time lag wrt something done
with freenode reaching irc.gimp.org. In any event, now I'm registered
and identified.

But there is still a message about "invite-only".

Best,
Elle



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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Patrick Shanahan-3
* Elle Stone <[hidden email]> [08-23-18 12:12]:

> On 08/23/2018 11:47 AM, Paka wrote:
> > * Elle Stone <[hidden email]> [08-23-18 11:42]:
> > > On 08/23/2018 11:25 AM, Paka wrote:
>
> > > > > This channel is invite-only. You must have an invite from an existing member
> > > > > of the channel to join. Use "/knock #gimp" to ask the channel operators to
> > > > > invite you in.
> > > >
> > > > it was instituted freenode wide to accept *only* registered users due to
> > > > spamming.  it requires you "log" in using a password to your *registered*
> > > > id.
> > > >     go to #freenode
> > > >     make sure your nick is correctly set
> > > >     /msg nickserv identify <your-password>
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hi Paka,
> > >
> > > I just did register with #freenode. But I still get the same "invite-only"
> > > message when trying to join #gimp.
> > >
> > > Is freenode even related to irc.gimp.org?
> >
> > no, not "related".  freenode provides irc service connections and I can
> > access #gimp from there.
> >    paka (~paka@opensuse/member/Paka) has joined #gimp
> >
> > > Does freenode handle all nick registrations?
> >
> > as far as I know
> >
> > > Does irc.gimp.org require separate registraton?
> >
> > "registering" alone is not enough,
> >    did you do "/msg nickserv identify <password>"
> >
>
> Hi Paka,
>
> It does seem that irc.gimp.org and freenode.org require separate
> registration. Or else there is some sort of time lag wrt something done with
> freenode reaching irc.gimp.org. In any event, now I'm registered and
> identified.
>
> But there is still a message about "invite-only".

I am not an "irc" specialist, but aiui freenode *only* provides access to
irc like a server and gimp's irc address is #gimp.  And I guess irc.gimp.org
is the same, a server providing access to irc which has #gimp.  And I
would bet that registering one one is the same as the other and
effectively is registering on "irc" and not *particularly* freenode or
irc.gimp.org.

I do not normally watch #gimp on irc but am able to join using "/j #gimp"
from any open screen in weechat.  but I do know that having a registered
nick and doing the identify using a password is *now* required, and that
the message you are receiving about being invited is related to the ident.

maybe someone with more irc knowledge will pipe in.

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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Akkana Peck
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Elle Stone writes:
> It does seem that irc.gimp.org and freenode.org require separate
> registration. Or else there is some sort of time lag wrt something done with
> freenode reaching irc.gimp.org. In any event, now I'm registered and
> identified.
>
> But there is still a message about "invite-only".

For what it's worth, I'm getting the same "invite-only" message Elle
is. If I /msg nickserv status from #gimp-users (which doesn't seem
to have the same restriction), it says I'm status 3, which
supposedly means I'm logged in.

        ...Akkana
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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Liam R E Quin
In reply to this post by Patrick Shanahan-3
On Thu, 2018-08-23 at 11:47 -0400, Paka wrote:
>
> >
> > Is freenode even related to irc.gimp.org?
>
> no, not "related".  freenode provides irc service connections and I
> can
> access #gimp from there.

You are accessing an entirely different #gimp.

The #gimp on freenode is not the same as the #gimp on irc.freenode.net,
they are as different as www.gimp.org and www.freenode.net, run by
different people, different physical computers, etc etc.

> > Does freenode handle all nick registrations?
>
> as far as I know

Only for freenode. You have to register separately with NickServ on the
GIMP network.

But the message about invite-only is not the same as Freenode requiring
that you are logged in (identified) to a registered username (nick).

For freenode's #gimp you have to be using a nick registered on
freenode, and identified to nickserv, e.g. with
   /nickserv id you-password-here
before you join.

On the GIMP network yes, also identify to NickServ in the same way,
using the password for gimpnet, but if #gimp is invite-only you can
either follow the instructions you were given to use /knock, or message
someone whose nick you know, or try #gimp-users and see if there's
anyone around, or try in a little while.

The channel is indeed invite-only on gimpnet right now.

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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Elle Stone
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On 08/23/2018 12:33 PM, Akkana Peck wrote:

> Elle Stone writes:
>> It does seem that irc.gimp.org and freenode.org require separate
>> registration. Or else there is some sort of time lag wrt something done with
>> freenode reaching irc.gimp.org. In any event, now I'm registered and
>> identified.
>>
>> But there is still a message about "invite-only".
>
> For what it's worth, I'm getting the same "invite-only" message Elle
> is. If I /msg nickserv status from #gimp-users (which doesn't seem
> to have the same restriction), it says I'm status 3, which
> supposedly means I'm logged in.
>
>          ...Akkana

Akkana, thanks! for letting me know I'm not the only person seeing the
"invite-only" message.

Best,
Elle

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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Elle Stone
Hi All,

For two days now I've wanted to log into #gimp IRC and ask a question.

I think right now I can now log in the way I always have, without
identifying myself as really me, belonging to my registered nickname.

But what I really want to know is how to actually join a channel and at
the same time identify myself.

I have a generic chatzilla window open.

What, exactly, do I type to join #gimp and at the same time identify myself?

I've perused the internet several times over the last two days and come
up with a whole lot of stuff, none of which actually lists the actual
specific commands to type.

Best,
Elle
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Re: #gimp irc invitation only?

Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2018-08-24 at 09:36 -0400, Elle Stone wrote:
>
> What, exactly, do I type to join #gimp and at the same time identify
> myself?

(1) to identify yourelf (to log in, basically)
/nickserv identify your-password-here

If chatzilla says no such command nickserv, use
/msg nickserv identify your-password-here
but this is not secure (if for some reason the real nickserv is down,
someone else might use that nick and receive your password in clear
text!)

Obviously, use your gimpnet IRC password, not you-password-here. Unless
you actually used your-password-here as your gimpnet password :) :)

(2) to join #gimp
/j #gimp
or
/join #gimp

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