Re: Answer to Asking about comparison to Photoshop (AW: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 24)

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Re: Answer to Asking about comparison to Photoshop (AW: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 24)

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Hello!

For me it is quite easy to use Krita for CMYK conversion, while doing the
real work in GIMP. So even now it is possible to do a print job all with
open-source-software. My question to the developers: GIMP is an open-source
image manipulation program, Krita is. Could the developers of Krita help the
developers of GIMP to get CMYK into GIMP and running? Is there a chance to
use their code?
Regards

Klaus Goelker
Maxstadtstra├če 27
80689 Muenchen

www: www.goelker-online.de



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   1. Re:  Colour Palette (Liam R E Quin)
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 16:32:26 -0500
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On Tue, 2020-12-22 at 12:34 +0100, Peter Wells wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone tell me how to find the colour palette. i.e. plain coloursf
> or example to use with bucket fill.

One way is to click on the two overlapping rectangles (one black and one
white, by default) under the toolbox, that show the current paint colours
(foreground and background respectively).

Another is to click on the colour swatch in tool options for the bucket
fill.

To choose from  groups of similar colours, go to the Window menu and choose
Dockable Dialogues->Palettes. You can right-click on one that sounds
interesting and choose Edit, and now clicking on a colour in it will choose
that colour for the foreground, including bucket fill.

ankh

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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2020 17:05:25 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Answer to Asking about comparison to
        Photoshop (AW: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 22)
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Klaus G?lker wrote: "GIMP until now can?t handle CMYK, work for pre-press,
Photoshop can."
Yes, that is a major and important difference.

Rick S.



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On Tue, 2020-12-22 at 17:05 -0500, Rick Strong wrote:
> Klaus G?lker wrote: "GIMP until now can?t handle CMYK, work for pre-
> press,
> Photoshop can."
> Yes, that is a major and important difference.

Note that there are plugins such as separate+ that go some of the way.

Print and pre-press is for sure an area where we could for sure do wih
more volunteer programmers, although it's not easy.


However, for most users, sending an RGB file to a print shop (or to a
printer) is fine.


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Re: Answer to Asking about comparison to Photoshop (AW: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 24)

Liam R E Quin
On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 13:22 +0100, klausgoelker--- via gimp-user-list
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>  Could the developers of Krita help the
> developers of GIMP to get CMYK into GIMP and running? Is there a
> chance to use their code?

Almost certainly not. But there has been work done in GIMP on CMYK;
there's a shortage of volunteers, unfortunately, writing code.

liam (slave ankh)


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Re: Answer to Asking about comparison to Photoshop (AW: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 24)

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On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 11:09 AM klausgoelker--- via gimp-user-list
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> Hello!
>
> For me it is quite easy to use Krita for CMYK conversion, while doing the
> real work in GIMP. So even now it is possible to do a print job all with
> open-source-software. My question to the developers: GIMP is an open-source
> image manipulation program, Krita is. Could the developers of Krita help the
> developers of GIMP to get CMYK into GIMP and running? Is there a chance to
> use their code?

Hello Klaus,

What your questions really are:

Could one team of overworked people writing code in one programming
language figure out a whole new huge code base written in an entirely
different language to help another team of overworked people?

I'd say, chances of that are slim :)

And no, there is neither chance nor reason to use Krita's code either.

Alex
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Re: Answer to Asking about comparison to Photoshop (AW: gimp-user-list Digest, Vol 111, Issue 24)

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On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 11:18 AM Liam R E Quin wrote:
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> On Wed, 2020-12-23 at 13:22 +0100, klausgoelker--- via gimp-user-list
> wrote:
> >  Could the developers of Krita help the
> > developers of GIMP to get CMYK into GIMP and running? Is there a
> > chance to use their code?
>
> Almost certainly not. But there has been work done in GIMP on CMYK;
> there's a shortage of volunteers, unfortunately, writing code.

The work was done in GEGL and babl really :)

@Klaus

GIMP's processing engine is capable of loading a CMYK TIFF file,
processing it with a filter or placing an RGB image over it, then
saving it all back to CMYK TIFF. We need volunteers to plug this all
into GIMP. This would require changing both core functions and file
plugins (TIFF, JPEG, PSD).

Alex
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