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mikolaskova
Hello,

I'm working on a project, where existing raster graphic software is being replaced by GIMP.
There was a question about available certification. Are there any official plans?

I found an old thread, where it does not sound too positive about this idea, but maybe things changed.
(this one http://gimp.1065349.n5.nabble.com/Gimp-certification-td17240.html but it got a discussion about GIMP name)

Thanks and regard,

Adriana
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Steve Kinney


On 06/18/2017 03:22 AM, mikolaskova wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm working on a project, where existing raster graphic software is being
> replaced by GIMP.
> There was a question about available certification. Are there any official
> plans?

Certification of what, by who, and for what purpose?

Inquiring minds want to know.


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Re: Certification plans

Ofnuts-2
On 06/18/17 21:09, Steve Kinney wrote:

>
> On 06/18/2017 03:22 AM, mikolaskova wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm working on a project, where existing raster graphic software is being
>> replaced by GIMP.
>> There was a question about available certification. Are there any official
>> plans?
> Certification of what, by who, and for what purpose?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know.
>
>
These are "Professional certifications", that are available in some form
or another for many professional softwares. Usually obtained after a
(paying) training from the software house: Oracle, Microsoft, RedHat...  
There are also certifications for FOSS software but since they are
issued by many independent companies none of them have much clout. They
can look nice on a resume, especially when you are hired on a project
basis (consultant, IT services...) but not a true proof of proficiency.

IMHO a Gimp certification is pointless. People that pay you for graphics
work look at the result and don't really care how you obtained it. This
isn't the same thing as trusting your mission-critical enterprise
database or server farm to some unknown individual.


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Re: Certification plans

Steve Kinney


On 06/18/2017 03:30 PM, Ofnuts wrote:

> On 06/18/17 21:09, Steve Kinney wrote:
>>
>> On 06/18/2017 03:22 AM, mikolaskova wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm working on a project, where existing raster graphic software is
>>> being
>>> replaced by GIMP.
>>> There was a question about available certification. Are there any
>>> official
>>> plans?
>> Certification of what, by who, and for what purpose?
>>
>> Inquiring minds want to know.
>>
>>
> These are "Professional certifications", that are available in some form
> or another for many professional softwares. Usually obtained after a
> (paying) training from the software house: Oracle, Microsoft, RedHat...
> There are also certifications for FOSS software but since they are
> issued by many independent companies none of them have much clout. They
> can look nice on a resume, especially when you are hired on a project
> basis (consultant, IT services...) but not a true proof of proficiency.
>
> IMHO a Gimp certification is pointless. People that pay you for graphics
> work look at the result and don't really care how you obtained it. This
> isn't the same thing as trusting your mission-critical enterprise
> database or server farm to some unknown individual.

Oh that.  As an old QA guy I tend to think of certification in a whole
other context, relevant to the fitness for use of deliverables.

I don't think too highly of certificates of completion from vendor
specific programs for software users.  A primary objective of the
coursework in those programs is to prepare the student as an outside
sales rep for the vendor, assuring that as much money as possible will
be spent with the vendor by certified whatzit's employer, and vendor
lock-in firmly established at the enterprise.

:o)


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Re: Certification plans

Steve Kinney
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On 06/18/2017 03:30 PM, Ofnuts wrote:

> IMHO a Gimp certification is pointless. People that pay you for graphics
> work look at the result and don't really care how you obtained it.

Depends the workplace environment.  At a company big enough to have a
dedicated HR department, ass covering is always a priority:  When you
hire people without knowing anything at all about the actual job they
are going to do, a certificate from somebody saying the candidate can do
that job is evidence of due diligence - and takes no actual work on the
part of the interviewer, vs. asking to see examples of a candidate's
work, guessing whether it's relevant to the position in question, etc.

An offlist message mentioned a certification program for the GIMP that
costs $120 and, per the curriculum on the website, appears to be legit.
Any experienced user could probably blow through it in a day or so,
unless it is necessary to memorize "wrong answers" to pass.

:o)



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Re: Certification plans

Rick Strong-2
The originator of this question might be better off to become certified by a
professional graphic design/graphic communication organization such as the
GDC in Canada, ARGD in Ontario, the SDGQ in Qu├ębec, the UCDA (colleges &
universities), CAPIC for Illustrators, the AGDA in Australia, the AIGA in
the U.S. or ICOGRADA in Europe.

Knowing the software is just the start of a great career.

Rick S.

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From: Steve Kinney
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 7:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Certification plans



On 06/18/2017 03:30 PM, Ofnuts wrote:

> IMHO a Gimp certification is pointless. People that pay you for graphics
> work look at the result and don't really care how you obtained it.

Depends the workplace environment.  At a company big enough to have a
dedicated HR department, ass covering is always a priority:  When you
hire people without knowing anything at all about the actual job they
are going to do, a certificate from somebody saying the candidate can do
that job is evidence of due diligence - and takes no actual work on the
part of the interviewer, vs. asking to see examples of a candidate's
work, guessing whether it's relevant to the position in question, etc.

An offlist message mentioned a certification program for the GIMP that
costs $120 and, per the curriculum on the website, appears to be legit.
Any experienced user could probably blow through it in a day or so,
unless it is necessary to memorize "wrong answers" to pass.

:o)



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Re: Certification plans

mikolaskova
Thank you for your answers. I'm asking because the question showd up in our project-
the people are used to let themselves certify in order to increase job chances in case of changing working place.

The question was: if we switch to GIMP- how can we guaratnee our employees they get experienced in a usefull field.
(my general answer is: somebody able to use GIMP for image editing will be able to use other ... software, same as people skilled in this other... software can switch to GIMP without major problems; there is an increasing market for people able to work with GIMP etc...)
I know, these questions sound strange somehow but for some institutions it's essential.

And: both kinds of certification would be useful: certified GIMP trainer and certified GIMP user(?)

It's about europe...so I will ask at ICOGRADA (I already am in contact with the LPI)

Best regards,

Adrana
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Steve Kinney
Here's one:

https://learning.naukri.com/gimp-tutorial-certification-course-v272

Daniel Smith pointed it out in a reply that came to me but not the list;
that might have been an error.

It looks legit to me; the course outline is more or less what I would
have come up with if asked to design one.

:o)



On 06/19/2017 12:03 PM, mikolaskova wrote:

> Thank you for your answers. I'm asking because the question showd up in our
> project-
> the people are used to let themselves certify in order to increase job
> chances in case of changing working place.
>
> The question was: if we switch to GIMP- how can we guaratnee our employees
> they get experienced in a usefull field.
> (my general answer is: somebody able to use GIMP for image editing will be
> able to use other ... software, same as people skilled in this other...
> software can switch to GIMP without major problems; there is an increasing
> market for people able to work with GIMP etc...)
> I know, these questions sound strange somehow but for some institutions it's
> essential.
>
> And: both kinds of certification would be useful: certified GIMP trainer and
> certified GIMP user(?)
>
> It's about europe...so I will ask at ICOGRADA (I already am in contact with
> the LPI)
>
> Best regards,
>
> Adrana
>
>
>
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Steve Kinney


On 06/19/2017 01:06 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:

> Here's one:
>
> https://learning.naukri.com/gimp-tutorial-certification-course-v272
>
> Daniel Smith pointed it out in a reply that came to me but not the list;
> that might have been an error.
>
> It looks legit to me; the course outline is more or less what I would
> have come up with if asked to design one.
>
> :o)

We should also mentioned Scribus, the major Free Software desktop
publishing application.  IMO a GIMP user certification program should
include a unit on using Scribus:  Unless an image is intended for use on
a website or in a word processor document, page layout and export to a
print ready file format (normally PDF) is the necessary final stage of
image production, even if only to test color rendering and make "contact
sheet" indexes of finished images.  Scribus is very simple and easy to
use, although as with any tool it takes a little tinkering and getting
used to.

I should also mention Inkscape, the major Free Software vector graphics
editor.  Applications for vector graphic formats include offset
printing, posters and signage, and any context where really precise
manipulation of text (font) content or line drawings is needed.  Vector
format image content scales to any size with no loss of resolution,
hence the name of the SVG "scalable vector graphic" file format.  Image
content that is frequently reused in many contexts, i.e. company logos,
should be designed as vector graphics to begin with; otherwise, it will
be necessary to re-create them as such sooner or later.  Inkscape can
export vector images to PNG, JPG, EPS, etc.

This online program offers a "certificate of completion" that makes it
the closest thing to Inkscape user certification I found in a quick web
search:

http://www.trainingcenter.com/inkscape

Anyone who can only edit raster graphics (i.e. GIMP) or vector graphics
(i.e. Inkscape) is only half a general purpose graphics production worker.

:o)

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Rick Strong-2
I concur with Steve Kinney that Scribus and Inkscape are also valuable tools
to be adroit in, for the reasons he mentioned.

Rick S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Kinney
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 2:26 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Certification plans



On 06/19/2017 01:06 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:

> Here's one:
>
> https://learning.naukri.com/gimp-tutorial-certification-course-v272
>
> Daniel Smith pointed it out in a reply that came to me but not the list;
> that might have been an error.
>
> It looks legit to me; the course outline is more or less what I would
> have come up with if asked to design one.
>
> :o)

We should also mentioned Scribus, the major Free Software desktop
publishing application.  IMO a GIMP user certification program should
include a unit on using Scribus:  Unless an image is intended for use on
a website or in a word processor document, page layout and export to a
print ready file format (normally PDF) is the necessary final stage of
image production, even if only to test color rendering and make "contact
sheet" indexes of finished images.  Scribus is very simple and easy to
use, although as with any tool it takes a little tinkering and getting
used to.

I should also mention Inkscape, the major Free Software vector graphics
editor.  Applications for vector graphic formats include offset
printing, posters and signage, and any context where really precise
manipulation of text (font) content or line drawings is needed.  Vector
format image content scales to any size with no loss of resolution,
hence the name of the SVG "scalable vector graphic" file format.  Image
content that is frequently reused in many contexts, i.e. company logos,
should be designed as vector graphics to begin with; otherwise, it will
be necessary to re-create them as such sooner or later.  Inkscape can
export vector images to PNG, JPG, EPS, etc.

This online program offers a "certificate of completion" that makes it
the closest thing to Inkscape user certification I found in a quick web
search:

http://www.trainingcenter.com/inkscape

Anyone who can only edit raster graphics (i.e. GIMP) or vector graphics
(i.e. Inkscape) is only half a general purpose graphics production worker.

:o)

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