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Bob Letterman

A problem

I have used Gimp for years. I just bought a new I-Mac. Best Buy transferred the data to the new, OS Catalina I-Mac from my older I-Mac. Gimp is on there but, it won’t let me open desktop where, of course, all my photos are kept?

Please help????

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Re: A problem

System Preferences → Security & Privacy → Privacy ; open the padlock and enable full disk access.

> On 30 Mar 2020, at 23:36, Bob Letterman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I have used Gimp for years. I just bought a new I-Mac. Best Buy transferred the data to the new, OS Catalina I-Mac from my older I-Mac. Gimp is on there but, it won’t let me open desktop where, of course, all my photos are kept?
>
> Please help????
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Re: A problem

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On the desktop? That's probably not the best place. Unless that is a
mac-ism that I don't understand.

Cheers,

Cliff

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:24 PM Bob Letterman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I have used Gimp for years. I just bought a new I-Mac. Best Buy
> transferred the data to the new, OS Catalina I-Mac from my older I-Mac.
> Gimp is on there but, it won’t let me open desktop where, of course, all my
> photos are kept?
>
> Please help????
>
> Bob Letterman
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Re: A problem

Apple invented the desktop
🍎

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:24 AM Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <
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> On the desktop? That's probably not the best place. Unless that is a
> mac-ism that I don't understand.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Cliff
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:24 PM Bob Letterman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I have used Gimp for years. I just bought a new I-Mac. Best Buy
> > transferred the data to the new, OS Catalina I-Mac from my older I-Mac.
> > Gimp is on there but, it won’t let me open desktop where, of course, all
> my
> > photos are kept?
> >
> > Please help????
> >
> > Bob Letterman
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On 03/04/2020 17:32, Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list wrote:
> Apple invented the desktop
> 🍎
>
And they didn't patent it?
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Re: A problem

I was just kind of kidding because I’m sure people thought of it before
that but that was kind of the thing that says Apple apart what is the whole
creation of this interface that people could go and put their file
somewhere and that you would have these different folder sitting right
there on the “desktop“.
And I think that was all part of the lawsuit between Apple and Microsoft
over “windows”.

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:55 PM Ofnuts <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 03/04/2020 17:32, Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list wrote:
> > Apple invented the desktop
> > 🍎
> >
> And they didn't patent it?
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Re: A problem

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Maybe they did invent the desktop. But that doesn't answer my question. I
find it strange that anyone would store their photos on the desktop. Is
that a Mac thing?

Cheers,

Cliff

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 4:32 AM Daniel Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Apple invented the desktop
> 🍎
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:24 AM Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On the desktop? That's probably not the best place. Unless that is a
>> mac-ism that I don't understand.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Cliff
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 9:24 PM Bob Letterman <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I have used Gimp for years. I just bought a new I-Mac. Best Buy
>> > transferred the data to the new, OS Catalina I-Mac from my older I-Mac.
>> > Gimp is on there but, it won’t let me open desktop where, of course,
>> all my
>> > photos are kept?
>> >
>> > Please help????
>> >
>> > Bob Letterman
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Re: A problem

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I see, I think. Personally I have nothing on my desktop. I have only the
equivalent of that band at the bottom of the Mac screen that expands your
app icons. Dunno what it's called.

But I'm going to call 'off topic'. Nice chat though.

Cheers,

Cliff

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:11 AM Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list <
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> I was just kind of kidding because I’m sure people thought of it before
> that but that was kind of the thing that says Apple apart what is the whole
> creation of this interface that people could go and put their file
> somewhere and that you would have these different folder sitting right
> there on the “desktop“.
> And I think that was all part of the lawsuit between Apple and Microsoft
> over “windows”.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 3:55 PM Ofnuts <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > On 03/04/2020 17:32, Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list wrote:
> > > Apple invented the desktop
> > > 🍎
> > >
> > And they didn't patent it?
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Liam R E Quin

Re: A problem

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On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 10:32 -0500, Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list
wrote:
> Apple invented the desktop
> 🍎

Actually they pinched it from Xerox, who did invent it.

Unlike Sun and AT&T, developing the Open Look desktop a while later,
who licensed it from Xerox (although i don't know the terms of the
deal).

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Re: A problem

Yeah I meant general use

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:48 PM Liam R E Quin <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 10:32 -0500, Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list
> wrote:
> > Apple invented the desktop
> > 🍎
>
> Actually they pinched it from Xerox, who did invent it.
>
> Unlike Sun and AT&T, developing the Open Look desktop a while later,
> who licensed it from Xerox (although i don't know the terms of the
> deal).
>
> ankh
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Liam R E Quin

Re: A problem

On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 19:31 -0500, Daniel Smith wrote:
> Yeah I meant general use

go investigate the Xerox Star. It was intended to be at least as
general as the Macintosh.

>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:48 PM Liam R E Quin <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2020-04-03 at 10:32 -0500, Daniel Smith via gimp-user-list
> > wrote:
> > > Apple invented the desktop
> > > 🍎
> >
> > Actually they pinched it from Xerox, who did invent it.
> >
> > Unlike Sun and AT&T, developing the Open Look desktop a while
> > later,
> > who licensed it from Xerox (although i don't know the terms of the
> > deal).
> >
> > ankh
> >
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Michael Schumacher

Re: A problem

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On 4/3/20 11:11 PM, Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote:

> Maybe they did invent the desktop. But that doesn't answer my question. I
> find it strange that anyone would store their photos on the desktop. Is
> that a Mac thing?

Regardless of the platform, some people use the desktops as there main
file and folder storage location - I've seen desktops spanning multiple
screens, with icons everywhere, no free space left.

Other people use dedicated folders, sometimes even those the platform
suggests for these tasks.

It's mostly personal choice, like e.g. replying above or below quoted
text in mails :)

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Ross Martinek-3

Re: A problem

I’ve seen the same thing as Michael. However, at least in the Mac OS, my experience is that it’s a bad idea for two reasons:

1. It’s very easy to inadvertently rename, move, misplace, or delete a file. I only keep a few, generally temporary files on my desktop, files I intend to throw away when I’m done with them. Even so, I’ve managed to do all of these things at one time or another.

2. It seems that in the Finder (the real name and function of the so-called “desktop”) is really a kind of limbo as far as the computer’s file structure is concerned. The Mac OS is designed as a hierarchical file system, and should be used as such. When a file is stored on the desktop (i.e., the Finder), it is more likely to get lost in a crash or a disk problem. I have also experienced this first hand. This is also a particular problem if there are multiple user’s accounts.

Admittedly, other than inadvertent renaming, misplacing, or deletion, these problems tend to be rare. They do happen.

When files are transferred to a new computer, files on the desktop are more likely to be misplaced, or their address lost by the Finder, or corrupted. The icon my remain on the desktop, but the actual file location isn’t “known” by the Finder. The Mac OS is designed as a hierarchical file system, and should be used as such.

I think the best and easiest solution to the original problem is to restore the files from a backup. That was what I did when I had a similar problem. That was when someone with far more knowledge of the Mac interface, a developer, told me it was unwise to keep important files on the desktop.

Ross

> On Apr 4, 2020, at 2:11 AM, Michael Schumacher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 4/3/20 11:11 PM, Cliff Pratt via gimp-user-list wrote:
>
>> Maybe they did invent the desktop. But that doesn't answer my question. I
>> find it strange that anyone would store their photos on the desktop. Is
>> that a Mac thing?
>
> Regardless of the platform, some people use the desktops as there main
> file and folder storage location - I've seen desktops spanning multiple
> screens, with icons everywhere, no free space left.
>
> Other people use dedicated folders, sometimes even those the platform
> suggests for these tasks.
>
> It's mostly personal choice, like e.g. replying above or below quoted
> text in mails :)
>
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> Michael
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